Eric Massa Trashes Dem Leadership Before 5pm Resignation

Mar 8, 2010 Author Ladylibertas

Lady Libertas has popcorn popping and will be sitting back and watching the Eric Massa saga unfold today.

Eric Massa is the US House of Rep Congressman from NY-29 who announced his resignation last week due to a House Ethics Probe about misbehavior during a wedding and inappropriate comments.  Massa apparently has decided to take out the Democratic Leadership on his way out the door. He claims he is being ousted due to his NO vote on health care.

To clarify, Massa is indeed a NO vote on healthcare but he is voting NO because he is a Single Payer advocate – so he wants MORE government involvement in health care.  Now on to the good stuff.

Massa set the tone for the interview at the outset:

“I will not go quietly into the evening,

I was set up for this from the very, very beginning. If you think that somehow they didn’t come after me to get rid of me because my vote is the deciding vote in the health care bill, then ladies and gentlemen you live today in a world that is so innocent as is not to understand what is going on in Washington, D.C.”

Eric Massa continues on his rampage – Allow Lady Libertas to walk you through some of the juicier bits of the interview:

“Rahm Emanuel is son of the devil’s spawn. He is an individual who would sell his mother to get a vote. He would strap his children to the front end of a steam locomotive.”

Now, Lady Libertas cannot disagree with that one.  Nope – not one bit.  Apparently, Massa speaks from experience as he recounts an experience with Rahm (the mouthpiece of Obama!?):

“When I voted against the cap and trade bill, the phone rang and it was the chief of staff to the president of the United States of America, Rahm Emanuel, and he started swearing at me in terms and words that I hadn’t heard since that crossing the line ceremony on the USS New Jersey in 1983,” Massa said. “And I gave it right back to him, in terms and words that I know are physically impossible.”

Massa does not stop there.  He goes on to call Rep. Steny Hoyer a LIAR. This is better than the ridiculous Academy Awards any day. From Fox News:

And he said the accounting provided by Hoyer and his staff is a fabrication.

Hoyer’s office claims the majority leader’s staff was notified the week of Feb. 8 about the allegations, that Hoyer was “immediately informed” and that he told his staff that Massa should refer the matter to the Ethics Committee within 48 hours, or he would do so himself. According to Hoyer’s office, Hoyer learned “within 48 hours” from the ethics committee staff and Massa’s staff that the Ethics Committee had been contacted.

“Steny Hoyer has never said a single word to me at all, not ever, not once,” Massa said on Sunday.

“Not a word. This is a lie. It’s a blatant false statement. And that’s what triggered me to understand what in fact is going on.”

Then, in a shameless maneuver, Massa appeals to the American people to stop his resignation:

“I’m not going to be a Congressman as of 5 o’clock [Monday] afternoon. The only way to stop that is for me to rescind my resignation. That’s the only way to stop it. And the only way that’s going to happen is if this becomes a national story.”

and he tells another caller:

“I can’t call Fox News. You guys gotta call Fox News. I can’t do it. … Here’s why. I’m in the center of this storm, so obviously I’m not objective.”

WOW!  Devil’s Spawn, Cursing from the Obama Administration, Lies from Congressional Leader’s and all wrapped up in an Ethics investigation or PLOT to hear Massa tell it.  Considering that Massa has inappropriate behavior on New Year’s – the House Ethics Committee did move pretty fast, especially if you compare the Rangel ethics investigation and the several others still outstanding.

Countdown to 5pm begins – what will happen next?


Original Stories on Right Pundits here (Devil Spawn by Donald) and here

Breitbart has some of the audio from the Radio Interview with Eric Massa here

Lady Libertas Original Story

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Lady Libertas Speaks with Austin Tea Party Leaders about Joseph Stack

Feb 20, 2010 Author Ladylibertas

Lady Libertas reached out to the Leaders of the Austin area Tea Party groups to get their official statements on Joseph Stack and to confirm … once and for all (this means you moonbats) … that Joseph Stack is NOT A TEA PARTY MEMBER and his actions are condemned unequivocally by everyone involved in the Tea Party.

Lady Libertas would like to extend thoughts and prayers to the victims of the Joseph Stack attack. The suicide of this disturbed man and the death and pain that he has caused are heart wrenching. It is being reported that there was one additional death as a result of Joseph Stack flying his plane into the building to achieve his own suicide.

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Lady Libertas was stunned and outraged by the coverage of the Joseph Stack attack in the liberal blogosphere and then the main stream media. Headlines began appearing claiming that Stack was a Tea Party member and that the violence that he wreaked was a hallmark of the Tea Party movement. Donald, on Right Pundits, quickly broke the story (see full story here) of the Fake Facebook account attributed to Stack and set up by the mysterious Emily Waters. Donald provides links to the screenshot of that facebook account and how it was set up by Emily Walters with the Gadsden Flag and the Liberty Tree quote by Thomas Jefferson (and seen below). This facebook account and the distortions by liberals are nothing more than smear campaigns seeking to deface the Tea Party movement and prove some imagined violent agenda. The violent agenda of the Tea Party movement does not exist except in the fevered imaginings of the far left and the liberal media.

Somehow, this deranged girl thinks that misrepresenting a dead man and the Tea Party is all about her free speech.  Facebook removed the fake Stack Facebook account she created and her account so she has had her boyfriend open another Fake Stack Facebook account and filled it with more lies.  We can expect her to be writing for Huffington Post by the weekend, I am sure.  People are dead and Emily Walters is getting her 15 minutes of infamy by smearing Tea Party.  How Very Progressive of Her.
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By Thursday evening, the mainstream media began to report the liberal blogospheres rantings that Joseph Stack was a Tea Party member as truth. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Lady Libertas reached out to the leaders of the Tea Party groups in the Austin, Texas area to get their reaction and to ask if Joseph Stack was a member of any of their groups. Leaders from the various Tea Party groups in the Austin area and a 912 group all confirmed that Joseph Stack was not and has never been a member or affiliated with any of their organizations.

Lady Libertas spoke by phone with Greg Holloway, Member of the Board of Austin Tea Party Patriots and Co-Founder of Common Sense Texans. Greg’s wife, Judy Holloway is the Founder of Austin Tea Party Patriots. Greg and I had a heartfelt conversation about the Joseph Stack incident. I asked Greg what his reaction was when he heard that this man had flown a plane into a building in Austin.

“The biggest thing that we found today in Austin, no matter what political affiliation Joseph Stack had, is the human tragedy. We are sorry for him and the people hurt today. This is a personal and community tragedy. Our prayers go out to the victims and to the family of Joseph Stack.”

Greg confirmed unequivocally that Joseph Stack did not belong now or ever to Austin Tea Party Patriots.

“Joseph Stack is not on any lists and was not a member.”

We discussed his view of the Tea Party and why anyone would think Joseph Stack was a member.

“Why would he be a Tea Party member? It could have easily been said he was a member of any group. They are just ridiculously mistaken by saying he was a member of Tea Party. Tea Parties are designed to help people, to bring people back to the Constitutional Principles. We want to make the country a good place for all people, not just a select few. We use civil mechanisms, the rule of law, elections, legislation to achieve our goals. Violence has no place at all in what we do.

These are real people. There was a real tragedy. How these left wing blogs are behaving has nothing to do with what happened today.

I hope there are plenty of friends and family available for the victims and the Stack family. If there is anything that Austin Tea Party Patriots can do for them, we are here to assist.”

Lady Libertas also reached out to Head Organizer, Heather Liggett of Austin Tea Party. Heather provided me with the following statement:

“I can say with affirmation that Joseph Stack was not a member of the Austin Tea Party nor was he a member of The Tea Party Movement. Within Mr. Stack’s own writing, one can see clearly that are no shared values or principles with the Tea Party.

After reading Mr. Stack’s February 18, 2010 statement, it is evident he supported anarchy. The Tea Party movement does not advocate anarchy. The Tea Party movement believes in our founding principles so eloquently written in our Constitution.

Mr. Stack repeatedly showed disdain for free-market principles in his statement. The Tea Party movement knows that every American success is rooted in the freedom of our capitalist principles.

Mr. Stack did not believe in paying taxes. The Tea Party movement believes in taxes for the defense of Our Great Nation; however like the majority of Americans – be they Democrat, Republican or Independent – we all believe in reform of the current tax structure. We only differ on the type of reform that is best.

Mr. Stack saw churches as corrupt entities and called them “monsters of organized religion.” He spoke of being “brainwashed to believe that there is freedom” and declared “violence is the only answer.” The Tea Party movement believes in God, and we know the valuable contributions our churches make each day to our communities across this land.

Thousands of Tea Parties have been held nationwide, a million Tea Partiers marched in our nation’s capital, and not a single act of violence was ever committed by a Tea Party supporter.

There is a common thread that ties every Tea Party across this country to the Austin Tea Party, and that thread is our eternal optimism in America. Tea Partiers believe in the American Spirit, the American Dream and the freedom of the people to peacefully assemble and use the powers granted in the Constitution to restore our nation. Mr. Stack was void of optimism. It is ironic that some members of the media are void of integrity and would try to make an association where one does not exist, as spelled out by Mr. Stack himself.”

Lady Libertas touched base with Toby Marie Walker, the Head of Waco Tea Party. Toby Marie also confirmed that Joseph Stack was not listed on their membership list and condemned the violent attack and sent an official statement over for me to use.

From Toby Marie Walker, President: “The Waco Tea Party does not condone or advocate acts of violence, the person who committed this violent act was not a member of the Waco Tea Party nor have we had any contact with him.  Our thoughts and prayers are with the the victims and their families.  We would like to thank the first responders and others in law enforcement for their service and dedication to the community.

“The Waco Tea Party promotes fiscal responsibility, free markets and Constitutionally limited government.  We are not an anti-government or anti-tax group, we are an advocate of our taxes being spent wisely and levied reasonably.  Suggesting that the tea party movement is somehow connected to the incident is ludicrous, the perpetrator’s own statements in his manifesto suggest he had far different beliefs than those in the Tea Party Movement.”

“Those responsible for trying to drag the tea parties into this tragedy must be desperate.  “Never let a good tragedy go to waste” is their mantra, and that is obvious here.  At a time when decent Americans are shocked and praying for those affected, they were gleeful in creating misinformation to pin on a principled movement (in reference to Emily Walker who created the facebook account).  She should be ashamed of herself.”

Lady Libertas, with the assistance of SarahInTx (awesome #Twister in Austin!), reached out to one of the 912 groups in the Austin area.  Sarah is an active member of the Caldwell County 912 Project and she contacted  the leadership on my behalf regarding the Joseph Stack attack.  Sarah forwarded me the statement that came back to refute all liberal misrepresentations that Joseph Stack embodied Tea Party principles or behaved in a way that is endorsed by Tea Parties.  This is the statement that I received from Sarah that came to her fromTracy Forester of the Caldwell County 912 Project:

“Joseph Stack was not a member of the Caldwell County 912 Project. To the best of our knowledge, he was not a member of any 912 or Tea Party group. His actions were deplorable and are contrary to everything that the 912 Project and the Tea Party movement stand for. There is no justification for violence, no matter the grievance. The following question must be answered by each member before they join as a member on our meetup site: “Do you agree to be a peaceful and open minded member of this group?”

You will also find our mission statement [on the site}. Our goals are education, information and involvement.

Lady Libertas has yet to find an authentic Tea Party Group or Tea Party Member that endorses or agrees with the horrific actions of Joseph Stack.  We all knew that.

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A few, final thoughts.

Thank you to Greg and Heather, Marie, Sarah and Tracy.  I reached out and you responded immediately. You are all True Patriots and I salute the work that you are doing on behalf of our Republic.

Lady Libertas has been involved with the Tea Party Movement for almost a year. I have met some of the most amazing human beings through participation in the Tea Party. It is an amazing group of individuals from every imaginable walk of life, socio-economic level, and political party affiliation. We are white, black, brown, yellow, and red, white & blue. We have joined together not because we are all exactly the same in our beliefs but because we all love our country and we believe that it is in trouble. Tea Party is unique in its uniqueness. Each group is different but there has never been violence condoned or performed in the name of Tea Party. Only the terminally misinformed would mistake our passion for aggression.

One person’s insane actions, no matter what they believe does not define a movement. And that goes for Amy Bishop too.

The next few days will be immensely difficult for everyone involved as they attempt to recover from this unexplainable tragedy. Let’s hope that the left can leave off their political machinations, smear campaigns and fake facebook accounts to allow the victims, families and people of Austin time to wake up from this nightmare and begin to heal.

Lady Libertas Salutes:


Greg Holloway~Member of the Board of Austin Tea Party Patriots

Heather Littenger~Head Organizer of Austin Tea Party

Toby Marie Walker~Chief of Chaos & President of Waco Tea Party

SarahInTx - #Twister & Patriot - Please say HI to her on Twitter!

Tracy Forester - Caldwell County 912 Project

Donald from Right Pundits has also provided an update and a release of a statement by Emily Walters on his blog post:  Who is Emily Walters?.

Bungalow Bill is also on the unfolding Emily Walters is a Lying Liberal by updating his blog with new screenshots:  Who is Emily Walters & why is she trying to reinvent Joseph Andrew Stack on Facebook?

Be a Rebounder!

Feb 18, 2010 Author Scot Cerullo

by Buster55

A Jobs Bill?  This Can’t Be Good.

Hello. This is my first public article so please forgive any rambling that may follow. I think it is important for you to know a little about myself so you’ll understand what follows.

I grew up during a time when the nation and culture were in  fundamental transition. I went through junior and high school in the late 60’s and graduated in the early 70’s. The country was going through experiences and teachings that are now the basis of the “theology” of the leadership (or better put, the leading powers) of this nation.

Be sure of one thing, I love the United States and would not want to live anywhere else. I am , however, very concerned that we have forgotten where we came from.Federalist-Papers

I grew up in a family where if you wanted something you’d best get a job and earn some money, which is why I started working on farms in the summer and picked apples in the fall when I was 14. I continued to work part-time jobs until I graduated high school. I then got a job in a machine shop and have continued in that trade in some fashion until today.

After a few years I enrolled in the NY State Apprenticeship Program for Mold Building and became a Journeyman Mold Maker. I chose this job because “there would always be a need for Mold Makers / Tool Makers”. You see, anything that ever gets produced begins as an idea, becomes a blueprint, and is eventually followed by the execution of  machinery and tooling, and is ultimately built by Tool Makers (in some trade). and ultimately produced by an American worker in a factory which manufactures the finished product.

Then came NAFTA – the North America Free Trade Agreement. In the 1970’s & 80’s the mid-southern states started to loose jobs in the textile mills and all related trades. After that other portions of the country starting loosing traditional American jobs. First it was basic manufacturing, and then automotive jobs left our shores. Later it was electronics. (Do you remember the last computer that had “Made in America” printed on it?) Now, many of our medical products, from the prescriptions you ingest to the testing items used when you are in the hospital. are no longer made in the USA.

 Topping all the previous items, you would be frightened at how much of our National Defense products are made by countries that don’t like us very much. Now our President wants to take money TARP repayment funds to create a Jobs Bill.

First of all, these funds were specifically designated for debt reduction, but that apparently doesn’t matter. Congress can “just revise the Bill” to allow this travesty to go through.

More importantly, the “jobs” that will be produced from this bill will be Health Care Bill related or GREEN jobs related. (Can you spell agenda?)  I’m referring to the Health Care Reform most of America doesn’t want and Green jobs for a condition that doesn’t exist. This situation sounds much worse than NAFTA.

To give you an idea of what it was like in the late 1970’s, I was one of those drivers that got to sit in line at gas stations for hours just so you would be able to get enough gas until you could do it all over again two days later.  Have you ever been told which days you could buy gas? (Depending on your license plate number being odd or even)? That was the Carter years friends.

Because of my trade, I was fortunate enough to still have a job and be able to afford gas. Then things went bad again in the 1980’s and the 1990’s. But once again because of my willingness to continue learn and adapt, I went to Onondaga Community College in Syracuse NY so I could advance my opportunities by becoming a Design Engineer. You see, even though much of the manufacturing went off shore, most of the Engineering and tool building was still being done in the States. But once again, we (the American workers) started loosing that sector as well.

In 1993 I relocated my family from central New York to Western North Carolina for employment. The Tool Building trade was the staple of the area, and I did very well, for a while. If you haven’t noticed the pattern yet, it happened again, except this time I found myself unemployed for the first time in my life.

During the past five years I have lost two different jobs and have spent nearly two out of those five years unemployed. I went from working in the most stable trade in American history to wondering what am I going to do next.

You see, NAFTA was America’s first step towards the Global Market. It is good to buy and sell globally, but for some reason we gave “away the store”, and we are about to do it again….. An upcoming Jobs Bill. Think again. What have we seen the past few years? More importantly, what about the past 35 – 40 years? History is repeating itself.

America has always rebounded (in my lifetime), but this time I am really scared. We don’t have the leadership in place that wants to rebound.  Those of you my age, remember the past. Those who are younger, learn from our past.

 Stand up

 Get Involved 

 Be a “Rebounder”!

 

Respectfully submitted,

Buster55

February 18, 2010

America is Waking Up

Feb 2, 2010 Author Scot Cerullo

Americans are waking up to the fact that Obama’s policies and agenda are antithetical to everything American and to everything American’s hold true and dear. And looking over the past year it makes sense that Obama’s initial instinct in all matters large and small has been wrong, exactly wrong.

* The decision to try KSM in NYC was wrong!

* The decision to close Gitmo was wrong!

* His “Stimulus Bill” was wrong and a horrible waste of taxpayer’s money.

* His premature comments about the Boston cops acting “stupidly” was wrong.

* His admonition to not jump to conclusions about Hasan and the Fort Hood murder spree was wrong. His second comment about Fort Hood was also wrong. On the third try, he began to inch toward the truth that it was an on-going assault on America by radical Muslims.

* His 4-day delayed response to the Christmas day crotch bomber was in poor taste and wrong!

* His insistence that centralized government stimulus will improve the economy is fundamentally flawed and completely wrong!

* His disdain for those who produce and generate jobs is elitist and wrong!

* His naive, wealth-redistribution schemes are immoral, unsustainable and wrong!

* His endless promises of transparency and fundamental change have fallen flat on the electorate. In this case, he wasn’t wrong; he lied.

* Treating terrorists as ordinary criminals instead of enemy combatants is contemptible and wrong!

*Personally insulting the Supreme Court during a State of the Union address simply because he did not agree with a recent ruling is not only wrong but unprecedented.

* Incessantly meeting with lobbyists while claiming to abhor them is wrong!

* Believing government knows best is wrong!

* Insulting Scott Brown, Joe the Plumber and all of middle America is elitist and wrong!

* Removing a missile defense shield from Poland instead of using it as a bargaining chip is naive and wrong!

* Going on an international apology tour for America while unemployment remains at over 10% is wrong!

*Continuing to blame Bush for our current problems, even though Obama voted for the very bills he now denounces, is wrong!

*Increasing the budgets of federal agencies by over 50% and then announcing a fiscal freeze at current levels, levels higher than at any time in American history, is insulting and wrong.

* Claiming to welcome input from the GOP in public yet never returning their requests in private, is wrong!

* Focusing all of his energies on issues that Americans rank lowest in importance is wrong!

* Claiming to abhor earmarks even as he signed the 2009 budget, which contained over 8,000 earmarks, was dishonest and wrong!

Americans are beginning to suffer from buyer’s remorse. Conservatives were screaming in the wind all during the campaign, pointing out Obama’s radical relationships and inconsistencies, such as spending 20 years in Reverend Wright’s church and never hearing a word about America being a bad place.

Even liberal pundits are jumping ship, as they can no longer cover for a president who, faced with a smart, logical choice and a liberal, wistful one, chooses wistful every time.

People are not fainting at Obama speeches any longer. In fact, he’s over-exposed, like a bad commercial for a poor product. His lofty speeches may have catapulted him to the presidency, but now voters want action. Sadly, they are looking to a man who has zero executive experience whatsoever, literally, no resume that even hints to having met a payroll, governed a state or had to make tough decisions.

This doesn’t make me happy; it just makes my point.

Liberal vs. Conservative on Public Education

Jan 11, 2010 Author Scot Cerullo

The following is a complete set of recent email exchanges between myself and a long-time liberal friend Ross. If you look back in our website you will find the first set of email exchanges.

In this current crop, I noticed the same theme played out yet again, namely, Ross immediately refutes any and all research, studies and statistics that I point to, and then proceeds with opinion and anecdote. If I had used such an approach in a debating environment in college,  I not only would have lost on etiquette, but would have been called out on lack of substance.

You decide:

Hi Ross, 

I know your kids go to public schools, but here is more evidence that when the free market is allowed to present an alternative, test results improve, costs go down, graduation rates increase, kids are happier and learn more, in short, everyone wins. 

It’s not from Cato or Heritage. It’s a hands-on investigative study from John Stossel. If this link does not meet your requirements for quality refutation of your stated comments on public education, I’ll move on to another source, since in this matter, as in the others we’ve discussed,  the evidence in support of the superiority of a free market alternative is inexhaustible. 

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=1500338 

Scot

(As an added incentive, I also sent the following):

Ross, 

In case U R too busy to read the whole link, here is an except which makes the same point I made in our original email exchange.

American schools don’t teach as well as schools in other countries because they are government monopolies, and monopolies don’t have much incentive to compete. In Belgium, by contrast, the money is attached to the kids — it’s a kind of voucher system. Government funds education — at many different kinds of schools — but if a school can’t attract students, it goes out of business.

Belgian school principal Kaat Vandensavel told us she works hard to impress parents.

She told us, “If we don’t offer them what they want for their child, they won’t come to our school.” She constantly improves the teaching, saying, “You can’t afford 10 teachers out of 160 that don’t do their work, because the clients will know, and won’t come to you again.” 

“That’s normal in Western Europe,” Harvard economist Caroline Hoxby told me. “If schools don’t perform well, a parent would never be trapped in that school in the same way you could be trapped in the U.S.” 

Last week Florida’s Supreme Court shut down “opportunity scholarships,” Florida’s small attempt at competition. Public money can’t be spent on private schools, said the court, because the state constitution commands the funding only of “uniform . . . high-quality” schools. Government schools are neither uniform nor high-quality, and without competition, no new teaching plan or No Child Left Behind law will get the monopoly to serve its customers well. 

The longer kids stay in American schools, the worse they do in international competition. They do worse than kids from poorer countries that spend much less money on education, ranking behind not only Belgium but also Poland, the Czech Republic and South Korea. 

This should come as no surprise if you remember that public education in the United States is a government monopoly. Don’t like your public school? Tough. The school is terrible? Tough. Your taxes fund that school regardless of whether it’s good or bad. That’s why government monopolies routinely fail their customers. Union-dominated monopolies are even worse.

Hi Scot, 

Happy New Year.  I hope you had a relaxing, peaceful and joyous holiday peroid.  Thanks for staying in contact.  I must be honest with you.  I don’t have the time, interest or energy to respond to the John Stossels of the world. More to the point, I’m concerned about your well being if you are sending me this stuff at all hours of the morning.  Are you doing okay?  What are you doing day to day.  How is your daughter?  What are you doing for work?  Are you exercising at all?  What are you doing for fun?  What makes you laugh these days?  Are you in touch with Stu and how is that going for you?  What about Jeanie?

Let me briefly reiterate some of the points I made earlier and then I have to move on, I have a lot of work to do today.  To begin with, I’m quite familiar with John Stossel whose ideology and purpose, as reflected in his books, articles and reportage is to savage government in the service of pirivate power, greed and avarice.  His ideology and priorities are in line with other “conservative” thinkers and activists, from Rush to Beck to Heritage, Hoover etc.  Stossel chides the idea global warming, rails against government regulation of polluters, has campaigned for tort reform, hates unions and working people and poses as a scientist. He is not an honest broker that looks to spread light on an issue but to selectively marshall information in support of his right wing ideology.  If Stossel had his way, every New Deal measure enacted to make life more bearable for the rabble, like social security, medicare, etc. would be trashed.  He doesn’t give a wit about equality, fariness or justice.  I do.

Public education in the well to do suburbs across the counrty functions very well– even with “dreaded” teacher’s  unions. Do you think people in Dover, Weston, Wellesley, Hingham, Duxbury, Scituate, Newton, Brookline, Longmeadow, Hanover, Falmouth, Sandwich, Bedford, Harvard, Marion, Milton, Acton, Lexington, Lincoln, Norwood, Walpole, Nantucket or Martha’s Vineyard, etc., etc., are decrying the system of public education and teacher’s unions?  The answer is an obvious “no”.  Their schools are supported by a wealthy and stable tax base, the teachers are well trained, smart, accessible, skilled, motivated, creative and generally content. Why wouldn’t they be?   The same can be said of administrators.  

Students in those school systems can compete with any kids in any school system throughout the world.  They go on to very good colleges and generally lucrative careers.  People in those towns are able to exercise a wide measure of control over their local school systems through a democratic process, namely the election of a school board of education, aka School Committee and they value this piece of democracy. Students educated in these places have a huge and incalculable advantage over their urban counterparts.  It is called cultural capital and I have mentioned it before.  They are born into social and family circumstances which teaches them how to navigate all of the nuances of the dominant culture. They also have white skin. If you don’t think these advantages are not decisive in a competitve environment you are kidding yourself. I could elaborate on this for many pages. The answer is not private schools but a leveling of the playing field.  

Stratification in this society has never been higher and it is growing as the good paying manufacturing jobs which a working class family could rely upon for a decent quality of life have been moved by capital to 3rd World Countries where there are no unions, environmental standards an where workers make marginal wages. Huge tax breaks for the rich during the Reagan/Bush era has worsened the situation.  Exotic stock and security derivatives and unregulated securities have made the rich richer, crippled the economy and left the rest of us holding the bag-  that’s capitalism where private power gets leveraged as political power. 

You mentioned Belgium as an example of government run program where vouchers are used.  Fine, if that system works for Belgium which has far less stratification than we do owing to generous social programs of redistribution.  Though I haven’t researched it, I bet there are many well performing public school systems from China, to Japan to most sections of Western Europe and especially in Cuba which has a public school system which puts ours to shame.  What all of these country’s have in common is far less stratification than that which exists here. 

Social class is the best predictor and a very stable predictor for whether and how someone succeeds in this society.  It trumps all other indices.  Until we close the social stratification gap, don’t expect any urban educational system to succeed. 

The bottom line Scot is that we have different moral and ethical values which underlie our perceptions, ideas and priorities and which cannot be reconciled.  

Ross, 

The reason why vouchers are so important, the reason private schools, charter schools and other free market education solutions are so important, is because they provide the disenfranchised an opportunity to an equal start in life on a par with those residing in the wealthy and largely white suburbs you mentioned. It is not fair that I received a quality public education while a poor person in a different neighborhood receives a sub-par education. You of all people should know this. 

By attaching the money to the child rather than to the school, a poor, uneducated mother can use those funds to place her child in a high-performing school, rather than the current situation which provides her no options and indeed by its very design helps perpetuate what some characterize as a rigid caste system that favors wealthy neighborhoods. Vouchers give ALL people the ability to make their own choices for their children. 

This free market solution stands in stark contrast to the current public school model, which prevents choice and relegates the poor to substandard schools. This inequality is not only wrong but immoral. It virtually guarantees that poor children will receive a sub-par education, which will forever perpetuate the inequalities that we all know stem from such an unequal start in life. 

It all begins with a quality education, for everyone, not just fortunate white people in the suburbs! The system you support is utterly unfair. It favors wealthy, white neighborhoods where there is a large tax base, and penalizes poor neighborhoods with little or no tax base. Let parents decide where they want to send their kids, and provide them the vouchers to do so. 

Providing vouchers and choice to everyone equalizes the playing field and forces all schools to improve, as they would now need to compete for students. 

Equality of opportunity is the only way. I am surprised that you have taken a side which, by any measure you wish to use, removes choice, limits options and relegates the poor to attend the worst performing schools. I say give those parents the freedom and financial means to send their children to whichever school the vouchers will allow. 

Remember, the bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. 

God Bless! 

Scot

Hi Scot, 

Please tell me about how you are doing personally?  How is your relationship with your daughter?  What kinds of things are you doing togeher these days?  What are her interests? What are you doing for work?  What are you doing for leisure and laughs?  Are you in a relationship? What is a typical day like for you?  Are you working out?  How are you feeling? 

If only life were as simple as your free market solutions. Children from “poor performing schools”, voucher or no voucher, will not be able to compete with their higher performing counterparts until the underlying scourge of inequality, racism and lack of cultural capital are addressed. Do you think a kid that grew up in Roxbury or Dorchester will be able to compete with kids frm Newton just because they have a voucher and go to the same schools?  It will be a disaster for the former, as many well meaning METCO programs have demonstrated. 

METCO was a program which may still exist in some communities though I doubt it because it was a failed program.  METCO enabled poor urban kids, often non white, transportion and enrollment to more afluent communities to go to school including such places as Neeedham, Newton, Wayland, Lexington, etc.  However, the urban students were ill equipped to compete with their white and more affluent counterparts because of the nature and effect of social class and cultural capital.  It became a very frustrating experience for all involved and created tension between populations.  Vouchers will do nothing to remedy this condition.  What’s needed is a diferent funding formula for schools, a masssive urban jobs program and a campaign to strenghten public schools and their teachers.  Besides, there are many gifted, hard working, dedicated and skilled teachers in the urban public school system and the same can be said for many of the students.  They are not agitating en masse for vouchers.  Some improvements are occurring as measured by rising test scores.  But until general conditions of inequality are addressed there will continue to be a chasm between more and less resourced communities.  

Moreover, should religious institutions qualify for vouchers? What would be the effect on educational content? Who would decide what is appropriate educational content?  Like our Founding Fathers, I beleive in the separation of church and state and that no public funds should be expended on the promotion of religion. Public vouchers which can be used for the benefit and promotion of private religious educaional schools violate the Constitution. I especailly don’t want any of my tax money to go for vouchers to religious institutions that are anti science, anti evolution and teach such nonsense as creationism.  I would doubt that you would support your tax dollars going to Islamic Madress/Mahdras schools to promote the Koran.  Nor for that matter would I want any of my tax dollars going to lunatic Hassidic Jewish schools to promote such nonsense as the notion that god divinely willed Palestine to the Jews. 

I also think it is a very bad idea to introduce the profit motive into elementary and secondary education so that it becomes one more commodity for the rich to pillage as has occurred with such things as prisons and military servics.  Will educational companies then get on standard and poor’s and the NY Stock Exchange, sell shares and be bought and sold and traded on Wall Street.  Why not?  How much money that is needed for the pursuit of education and educational resources will be siphoned off by investors, how much will go into marketing and lobbying?  Pharmeceutical companies for example, who benefit from public expenditures for research and development and infrastructure spend more than twice as much on lobbying, marketing and advertising as they do on research and development into new drugs.  Why would these educational corporations behave differently?  Who will oversee the practice of false advertising by educational corporations inflating their performance to attract student vouchers and increase profit?  How does fewer resources benefit the educational community? Why should my taxes accrue to the benefit of rich investors?  Who will be left holding the bag should one of these institutions fail, make bad investments, pocket money that was supposed to go to teachers? Who do you think will have more power over these educational institutions, parents or shareholders?  Of course it will be the shareholders.  Will it then be a race to the bottom to see how little these educational instititions can pay their teachers and other professional staff in order to maximize profits and reward investors?  Yes, of course.  Will the educational institutions begin to replace living bodies, such as teachers with machines like computers for teaching and learning whenever possible? Why not, it cost a lot more money to pay a person over and over than to pay for a durable good which doesn’t need benefits like health insurance or a pension.  Will the welll funded private educational institutions use their political power to import teachers from the 3rd world who can be paid as sub contractors or otherwise a marginal wage?  Why not?  This is all part of the history and logic of private enterprise which on a grand scale has far reaching consequences. 

On another level, don’t you see that the downward pressure on wages and the attacks on teachers, unions, government and working people in general is politically motivated and ruinious to a consumer based economy.  When middle class jobs are eroded who has the money to buy the goods and services needed to keep the economy humming except for the rich. General wages and living conditions continue to decline as has been occurring for over 40 years.  More people work for WalMart now than any other employer. Forty-fifty years ago two of the biggest national employers were US Steel and General Motors. The number of people working for temporary agencies at temporary jobs has been inclining at a steady and alarming rate. Few temporary or services sector jobs pay anything near what it actually cost to live.  This pattern has a disasterous effect on the economy and social living standard.  It has ben facilitated by trends toward privatization and commodifying all services, as reflected in the movement for vouchers, which is a thinly veiled attack by capital against government, labor and public sector unions and works to further erode general living standards.  This issue, again, is about values. 

Scot, don’t you see that the educational process begins long before a child even enters school and that the gross social and economic inequality, tremendously exacerbated by Reagan and Bush, makes it nearly impossible for poor kids to compete with their better off counterparts and that until this underlying inequality is addressed, urban kids, mostly non white, can’t begin to compete on an equal playing field.  Vouchers are a distraction and will do nothing to improve educational opportunities, quite the opposite. 

I have said all that I have time for on this topic.  Send me what you wish but I will not be able to respond.  As is, I have spent too much time on this topic and as I indicated previously, our differences are largely about values. 

Take care,

Ross

Ross, 

Did you know you are right next door to some amazing charter schools which are so good and so effective in closing the education gap in urban settings that they have been used as national models. I really applaud what is happening in Massachusetts because it is just these kinds of solutions that begin to level a playing field that is too often neglected in this country. 

Here, take a look for yourself: 

http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/ 

As for Metco, it is neither a charter school, private school, voucher program nor anything resembling a free market solution, so I am not sure why you chose to use Metco as evidence that what I am advocating does not work. It is a grant program that began in 1966 and it is one of many efforts to help urban students (http://www.doe.mass.edu/metco/). It’s singular success or failure has no connection to what I have been discussing. While I applaud any attempt to equalize the playing field for disenfranchised students, I have been discussing the tremendous differences between the proven success we see when you allow people to choose and the dismal failure of a government-run school monopoly. 

I realize from your email how much you appreciate the schools in all the locations you mentioned, but keep in mind that you are referring exclusively to wealthy, mostly white MA suburbs with large tax bases. Of course their public schools will be excellent. My concern is that other, less prosperous towns, suffer a corresponding decrease in education quality. It is this inequality that is unacceptable and we have seen the results of a government run monopoly. 

Let people decide. Competition makes things better. Accountability and choice will always produce better results. Not because I say so. Because real-life, charter school test locations and voucher programs have proven themselves to be an excellent part of a solution and a refreshing change from the one-size-fits-all approach that centralized planning offers. 

As to your point about what happens when disenfranchised, urban students are suddenly placed into a room of privileged, wealthy kids, that is a concern and it breaks my heart. It is especially distressing when you consider that these kids are just beginning their life, are not responsible for the situation they were born into, yet must immediately begin suffering from the inequalities we have talked about. So yes, of course there is more to this problem than simply offering choice. But that does not take away from the fact that real life evidence continues to mount that when you provide alternatives, more options instead of no options, and give power to parents and states, you get better results. 

 

P.S. Thanks for asking about how I’m doing. Corina is great but also a difficult 16 year-old!, Lisa, Larry and I are all very close and spend a lot of quality time together. My magic continues going well, and I’m real excited about a couple of new routines I added to the show this past summer. During the winter months I do a considerable amount of writing for Cell Phones Etc., a website based in Canada for which I am the articles editor. Add in my own website, the new podcast and my amazing little brother Ian (Big Brother program), and it all keeps me pretty busy. As for exercise? Well, no I don’t get enough. Will try to work on that :)

Scot

Editor’s Note: Ross did not respond further.